About the Genuine Winner Roulette System & Computers, and the People that Try to Discredit them
Read something negative about the genuinewinner.com roulette system or roulette computers? Envious competitors publish false negative reviews under fake names, and take various steps to discredit my technology. Here you can determine the very simple truth - who has been lying, and who has been honest.
To refute the absolute nonsense spread about my technology, I conducted a public challenge in which a very well-known and trusted roulette forum member received my roulette computer and system for free. The idea was to have a neutral "tester" determine whether or not my claims about my technology are true. But the tester couldn't be just anyone - it needed to be someone who is experienced, and that everyone knows and trusts. The individual who was selected is "Ronjo" - he was suggested to me by Victor from VLS roulette forum, as Ronjo is very well known and trusted on numerous public forums. Ronjo's testing of my roulette computer is now complete. A summary of the findings is below:
Results of Official Public Challenge (roulette computer testing):
I sent Ronjo a DVD of approximate 100 spins from a current model roulette wheel. He selected one diamond, then set the computer to give predictions only when that diamond was predicted to be hit. Of course the computer can give predictions when any diamond is predicted to be hit, but for testing purposes it is best to just focus on one diamond.
An ivorine ball was used, which is quite bouncy, especially since the plastic from the pockets was removed - this means the ball bounces on metal, not plastic. The mk7 wheel is John Huxley's current model wheel. You can see photos of the wheel design at http://www.tcsjohnhuxley.com/en/live-gaming/roulette-wheels/traditional-roulette-wheel.html - as this page says, it's the world's most popular wheel.
Ronjo was able to adjust the tolerance levels so accuracy can be maximized. The tighter the tolerance, the less predictions he'd receive, but the more accurate the predictions would be. This is because the computer would reject any spins where it calculates the ball will not hit the target diamond. Again the computer can give predictions 100% of the time and for any diamond, but we stuck to only one diamond in this case to keep things simple. This resulted in 15 predictions out of about 100 spins. Below is what Ronjo said:
So for all 15 spins, the ball landed on the same half of the wheel as the prediction. That means the ball always landed within the predicted 18 or so pockets, including all factors such as diamond hits, scatter etc. While 15 spins is not a large number, you have to keep in mind the computer was set to give predictions only when a specific diamond was predicted to be hit, within whatever tolerance range he set. In a real casino environment, if you bet on every spin, it is too obvious. So it is better to make small diversionary bets to stay at the table, and on those 15 spins when a prediction is given, you bet large.
In the tests done by Ronjo with the ball landing on the correct half of the wheel every time, the results are very clear. Additionally, Ronjo verified the computer announced "risk" when the target diamond was not hit. This is an important part of the testing because it was done over approximately 100 spins, so clearly the results are not due to luck. Ronjo has confirmed my claims about the diamond hit predictions are true.
The test with diamond isolation (predictions only when a diamond was predicted to be hit) verifies my computer is capable of determining which diamond will be hit, and that it is capable of accurate timings - his findings have obliterated the false claims about my computer. The computer can give predictions for any of the diamonds, but for testing purposes it was more appropriate to just choose one diamond and focus on testing for that diamond alone. With respect to the equipment's ability to deal with human errors, Ronjo confirmed my claims about virtually all predictions being within a 3 pocket arc (maximum accuracy) for the different diamond test explained by Forester.
So this is what we have learned from Ronjo's testing:
None of the above would be possible if the hardware and software wasn't capable of accurate timings. You also need to keep in mind various factors such as the wheel and ball used, the ball track distortions which decrease accuracy, and the general layout of dominant diamonds including the dominant horizontal diamond. It's not like we used an easily beaten wheel - it is a wheel that others say cannot be beaten, yet as per Ronjo's testing the wheel was more than just "beaten". Plus for the dominant diamonds I deliberately had a dominant horizontal diamond - it was intentionally made more difficult, and still the results are what they are.
All up I'm satisfied with the results, even without using additional features to better manage ball bounce on different rotor speeds. All Ronjo looked at was the basics of accuracy for diamond hits and end predictions. The end predictions part is most relevant of course, but again you need to consider accuracy of diamond hits which tells us a lot about computer capabilities. There will of course be people that claim Ronjo must be wrong somehow, or that he is me under a fake name etc, but we expected that from the start. There are more than enough well known and trusted forum members, from various forums, to back Ronjo up with respect to his identity and credibility.
In addition to Ronjo's official statement, he also said:
On a final note if anyone believes Bago's (Tony Duhamel from France) desperate claims such as Ronjo is me, ask around at any forum, even at VLS - there are plenty of well known and reputable forum members who know Ronjo personally, and know for a fact he is not me. Ronjo was chosen because he is reputable, well-known and trusted. When I asked Victor (VLS roulette forum) who on his forum would meet the criteria, Ronjo was one of his suggested people.
Click HERE to read the entire thread detailing the public challenge, including Ronjo's comments - it is a very large thread, and anyone who reads it entirely would clearly know fact from fiction. Despite the findings of the challenge to be conclusive, this has not deterred my attackers because truth is irrelevant to them. However, now that the challenge is complete, anyone can decide for themselves who and what to believe.
To the people who are still trying to discredit my technology: sorry, but I told you from the start you can't invalidate truth, no matter how much of a personal vendetta you have. Truth always wins. Now that the truth is known about my roulette computer, the same kind of public validation will be done with my roulette system and the public will again see what liars you are.
NOTE: Immediately after the results of this public challenge was released, Tony Duhamel (Bago) demanded I remove his name from this site. It appears he wants to avoid the embarrassment of being exposed as a liar. Nevertheless, his name will remain for as long as there is a need to mention his name, which is to expose his atrocious and malicious lies. |
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About me and my technology:
For approximately 5 years I've been teaching legitimately effective and globally recognized techniques to beat roulette. Are they a scam? NO, even casinos acknowledge the effectiveness of many techniques I teach - some casinos even hire consultants to advise them how to deal with professional roulette players. Do your research thoroughly, and you'll find for yourself it is absolutely true.
Specifically I provide the genuine winner roulette system, and roulette cheating devices (hybrid roulette computer & standard roulette computer). Many individuals have attempted to discredit me, for varied reasons - many attack me largely from jealousy. Some have even created entire websites under fake names to discredit me. This web site clearly exposes the lies of these individuals and explains their motivations. I'll make it perfectly clear that I am not interested in childish mudslinging. This website is NOT intended to discredit or attack anyone - it is ONLY to defend myself. If I wanted to publish every little detail about the competitor's devices and why they are completely ineffective on modern wheels, this site would be twice as large and I would have wasted more time.
Understanding the type of people attacking me, and how far they're prepared to go:
Be aware that the people trying to discredit me are CONSTANTLY coming up with new lies, and I simply don't have time to address their every new lie. Whenever I expose their latest lies, they become embarrassed, and further intensify their efforts to harm me in a continuous cycle. So you need to be aware of this, and understand that my exposing of their various lies over the years shows you just how far these people are prepared to go. Really it is phenomenal how malicious and deceptive these people are. If you read surface lies from them about me, the information they present initially may appear clearly conclusive - after all, they often use facts to support their claims, but they twist and distort the information to suit themselves. They really have no interest in the truth. I suggest take the time to read this site in detail, use your common sense, and you will understand the type of people they are - really they have virtually no regard for the truth, and aim only to upset, harm and discredit me by any means necessary. Truly it is no exaggeration to state two of them in particularly (Mark Howe and Bago) literally appear obsessed.
Most of the attacks against me are nothing more than other system sellers trying to discredit me to boost their own sales. Often competitors even publish false negative reviews about me under fake names, and one has even been banned from forums for doing this. However, on a few very rare occasions, authentic players of ours have attacked us but as you'll find out from this site, a player fails to succeed only when they are doing something wrong - it is just easier for unsuccessful players to blame me instead of themselves. Some of our players have literally won millions. Many players regularly earn $30,000+ per week, some earn about $5000 per week, and some only $500 or so per week. But some players have achieved little or no success. Why? I have almost 600 players (system and computer combined), so of course at least a few are bound to not understand what they've purchased. I provide legitimate and proven effective tools - there is no doubt of their effectiveness to a professional, but unfortunately a bad tradesman blames his tools, which is why a few legitimate players have attacked us. Considering we are talking about approximately only 1% of players, the "authentic" negative feedback is relatively insignificant especially when compared to the positive feedback, although the negative feedback is still addressed in detail on this site.
See below for a few authentic testimonials from real players of my roulette system:
Testimonial 1 - Eric from USA (4m 25s) (Wins $500/day with $5 units)
Testimonial 2 - Mark from Australia (2m 51s)
Testimonial 3 - Adam from Australia (2m 10s)
Testimonial 4 - F.P. from Canada (6m 7s)
Testimonial 5 - David from Australia (2m 5s)
Testimonial 6 - A.D. from Germany (1m 35s) (Earned US$100,000+ so far)
Testimonial 7 - C.S. from USA (Plays only American 00 wheels)
Testimonial 8 - E.I from France (so far won €5,000)
Beyond the material on this web site, I am simply not interested in wasting time on the bogus claims of malicious individuals (mainly competitors) who simply don't care about truth. Everything you need to determine the truth is already here. If you aren't prepared to read this material for yourself, then I'd honestly rather not deal with you. If you actually do read the material, the very simple truth should be very clear. But both Yoda and I advise you focus on only what counts, otherwise the other nonsense will only confuse you. And just in case it is not clear, yes in parts of this site I'm attempting to be "funny". If you don't find me funny, you wont hurt my feelings. All this nonsense going on really should not be considered so serious. That doesn't mean I don't care about the truth though. Even considering all many people have done to harm me, I still consider much of it one huge joke. Considering the size of this universe and all that goes on it in, reality is that the scope of these issues is beyond insignificant. Indeed I have enjoyed making much of this website, and hope even my competitors can see the light-heartedness of it all.
If you conduct THOROUGH research, and I mean hours of reading and considering all the facts, you will know I'm honest and my claims are accurate. If you spend only a few minutes reading on various forums and blindly believing whatever you read on competitor's websites, you will have no idea. The extent of the manipulation from competitors is enormous and ongoing - they will never quit and you need to realize this. But do you really need to spend hours reading through all the garbage, and keeping updated on their latest lies? NO, you only need to consider what matters (Episode I). If you focus only on what counts, you will easily find the truth about what matters, which is whether or not my system and computers are what I claim.
HOW TO USE THIS WEB SITE:
The primarily individuals that have sought to discredit me each have their specific section. Each section has two parts (Episodes) as explained below:
EPISODE I: Only What Counts
Episode I is for people that couldn't care less about whether I prefer corn to peas, or any other irrelevant information. It is if you just want to know whether or not my technology is what I claim.
EPISODE II: The Nitty Gritty
This is is you want to dig deeper, and see my response to some of the finer points, even though they are often completely irrelevant. This section may also be somewhat entertaining to read.
BEFORE CONTINUING, CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING:
1. The truth is very easy to determine if you focus only on what counts: Don't get lost in the maze of mudslinging and all the finer points that are irrelevant. Stick to the basics, consider only what matters, and the truth will be much easier for you to determine. If you focus on all the he-said she-said rubbish, you will likely be confused.
2. The people attempting to discredit me will say whatever they must to protect their interests: to them, the truth is irrelevant. The truth could slap them in the face, but the last thing they'll ever do is admit being wrong or a liar. Understand the truth does not suit them so they will always, always change their stories and create new lies in attempt to create a believable story in attempt to discredit me. Does all their changing of stories and new lies make determining the truth more difficult? No, IF you focus only on what counts.
To proceed, click on the name of the individual who has been trying to discredit me:
Miscellaneous Individuals (such as banned players)
If you are in doubt of anything that has been said about me, or any of my claims, I suggest just call me personally. My contact details are at www.genuinewinner.com/contact.html - even if you just want to put a voice to a name, or get to know the type of person I am and ask me personal questions, by all means, call me. I'm a "normal" person and if you take the time to get to know me, you will find this out for yourself. Even some of my players who have become close friends once considered me some kind of evil scammer because of rubbish they read about me.
May the force be with you . . .